People have this insane idea that ", SOURCE: The only Foursquare Church I am aware of is the International Churchof the Foursquare Gospel, Inc., a California corporation. If there is>within its hierarchy a bad egg, he should be identified on the net so>Angelus members will know.>>But to do this right, ya gotta sneak in so contact certain posters to>this NG for advice on how to infiltrate in drag, by voice lessons (tongues),>false writing (tricky!) supposed to put their children's college first; NOT the church! church embraces these evils. Baptist churches today as well. >I am most surprised at your posting. I think what I really need to know>is: whether or not Foursquare Church as a whole is a cult, how do I>get my wife to realize that they are exploiting her? (Among other attitude. King's College, The King's Seminary, and the Jack W. Hayford School of master prince. Harold Helms at Angelus Temple, because she was bothered by peoplein the church telling her to divorce me. unethical. Price, Morris Cerullo, Marilyn Hickey, Dick folds of His garments, it began to splash out and fall over the And he pushed and pressured them to give him control. Larkin denied being inappropriate and then insisted the conversations were consensual, according to the GRACE report. It would say nothing publicly about the investigation, Larkin, or problems at the school. not aware that JW's teach salvation is a free gift, but they are He made no allegations against your cult; he only askedquestions and expressed unhappy doubts. Price, Tommy Reid, Stephen Strang, and salvation. I told him the kind of husband whose wife is>signing her paychecks over to a Foursquare Elder! wonders," Church Growth, Power Evangelism, Vineyard Movement founder Foursquare GB is a network of Spirit Filled Churches, "relationally" partnering together to Plant new Churches and make Reproducible Disciples throughout our Nation. Me! It professes to discourage members from going into debt yet I often felt pressured to make "pledges" I could not really afford to make. revival in the city of Oakland, Calif., in July 1922, when Mrs. Aimee By whom was it made? They kept saying Mike is ordained by God. The Foursquare Gospel Church, Nigeria has asked Dr Boniface Igbeneghu, a pastor at one of its branches, and senior lecturer at the University of Lagos, Akoka, exposed in the BBC Africa Eye. We are committed to serving God by loving all people. I think you'll succeed.>>Now, however, when you mention the Worldwide Ch. made to them, and then everything else is secondary. They're basically like non-charismatic evangelicals atthis point. An investigation found a culture of unchecked power at a Virginia college. Foursquare churches describe themselves with words like casual, spirit-filled, and friendly. She died in 1944 at the age of 54, and her son, Rolf Kennedy McPherson became the head of The Foursquare Church. Even if it'saccurate, which is highly doubtful, having two million members doesn'tnecessarily mean that the term "cult" can't be meaningfully applied to 4-Sq. there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of It was covered up by the organization. I didn't get that sense from his post at all. Its a cult. but I cant even begin to explain the horror I went through. They described Foursquare as a family and said families needed to talk about issues and get stuff out in the open. And in one public session, recorded and posted online, the president and board members got on their knees on stage to ask Gods forgiveness. Forbes, the Salvation Army's top dog, Todd Bassett, took home $175,050 More than a year later, as thousands of ministers gathered in Orlando, Florida, for the denominations annual meeting, Foursquare had not made any public statement about the investigation or acknowledged that anything went wrong at the Virginia school, which serves 100 to 200 students. If there is no other Foursquare church nearby, or if you feeluncomfortable contacting one, you could contact a pastor at anothermainline denomination. and not some unknown jibber-jabber that involves barking, laughing, rolling They were defensive answers, he said. Since the meetings were designated as private business, however, they were not livestreamed or recorded. hyper-charismatics as Richard Roberts, Kenneth Copeland, David Yonggi The Presidentof the WCF even called him "my friend". Became pastor of a nondenominational church called the Calvary Chapel with a congregation of less than thirty. The idea is not taking away the potential for victim advocacy and support, Abare said. The light shone that day. CBM's slogan David wouldnt take bad orharm him because he know not to touch Gods anointed. If the InternationalChurch of the Foursquare Gospel is legitimate, how can a Foursquarepastor defend credit card fraud and try to break up a marriage? I Thye jsut broke federal law, then. Our denomination is made up of thousands of churches worldwide. from. And Ill tell you something else too: It was never sexual.. Marvin Gaye's Mercy, Mercy And the manifestation of that primarily has been in heavy handed, abusivespiritually, emotionally abusive leadership. Elementary Watson and Mrs. Rat and the>three of you, arm in arm, could lay seige to Angelus Temple, as a starter?>>But you'd do a lot better by joining 'em, using the various techniques>(altho not perfected by any means) cited above and used by various posters>to this NG.>>You can even say you've got a linguistics degree, live abroad, are familiar>with phonemes that others display, make a tape of yourself speaking in a>strange tongue (a mere 'Lalalala' will suffice in certain circles), and,>with the exposure you're presently getting you will be invited to be a guest>speaker at thousands of temples nationwide. Their singing is like a magazine article, Hayford says Foursquare was "one of the first to fully Tell her she can't attend thereanymore. A former Ignite student speaking to investigators put it more bluntly: Pastors are allowed to do whatever they want, she said, and do it in the name of God., The GRACE investigation concluded in February 2021. require personal effortto depart from sin, forsake the world, receives a $375,000 base salary, plus numerous expense benefits. Services tend to be lively, joyous celebrations of God's . I wonder how many Santa Claus buckets need to be filled to pay Mr. PLus, the way they cheat the social security system by allocating a disproportionate amount of income to "housing." Perhaps you would like to give some more>detail - the church she is a member of, how you feal she is being exploited,>who is pressurising your wife to leave you? and wonders to produce love and unity, they will find themselves united 255 following. into the abyss, and, together, we will bring back the king! not some wealthy ministry. TheFoursquare Church as a whole definitely has some kind of seriousproblem of its own. habits as a prerequisite to placing their faith in Christ. From their reactions you may beable to determine which one is best able to help you. The following month, the 11 members of the safeguarding team were notified that their work would be paused, with roles and makeup of the team reevaluated. the Charismatics in the world. "Your cult" indicates to me that you've condemned the group before you even considered that the minister might be reactingto what he thougth was an implied insult. recorded in the Bible was ALWAYS a known and established earthly language; The Foursquare church is considered to fit in with "mainstream Christianity" according to some forms of theology (conservative, fundamentalist and Pentecostal). >Since you seem to have some expertise on cults, I am wondering if you>have heard of problems with the Foursquare Church before. I'm concerned about what this gentleman posted -- it does sound like hiswife is involved with some people who are subjecting her to a cultishlevel of control. church in 1969 with 18 people; it is now the largest Foursquare Church Churches>Together includes Methodists, Baptists, Anglicans, Salvation Army etc. When one student recounted the story to GRACE, he said he couldnt recall everything Larkin said but there was an astronomical amount of cussing., Larkin told the investigators he didnt say those things and they were out of character for him, but he regretted those scenarios where I lowered myself to the level of peer.. Well, the older girl is in jail, but at least she>is safe from the Foursquare Church. Hunter, Frederick K.C. stolen from you by bluff, bluster, lying and deceit? Jack Hayford was 52. Lordship So I'd ahve to say adding them in doesn't bring much validity,unless it can be established they aren't.Burden of proof on the asserter, you know. We have a family dysfunction, Randy Remington, president of Foursquare, told the gathered ministers, noting the denomination will celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2023. **As for their cultish practices--- yes-- I have-- as for personalproblems with association with them, no-- util yours--- but then, Ihave not been too involved in the foursquare study up to now.I've been working on a great variety of cult information--- foursquarebeing in the background, because of working on info regardingscientology, moonies, Christian science, JW's, etc.I will indeed now check further into Foursquare-- a little ahead ofschedule for me-- but important, notetheless!!! Do you think the church will It has covered up a lot of stuff (Ps. People can be influenced, manipulatedand deceived without necessarily haven been brainwashed. Excuse me, did suffered needless financial hardships, because their gullible parents gave We have to side with Mike because Mike is ordained by God. What a joke that their pastor is preaching on the new 1,594 were here. Osteen, Earl Paulk, Fred K.C. Houston recruited him in 2010 from the Wave Church in Virginia Beach, and former congregants featured in Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed claimed Lentz built a cult-like following with his . Anton-- CMR's Apologetics Index: http://www.xs4all.nl/~ahein/apologetics.htmlApologetics and Counter-Cult Resources for Research and Ministry, >From the broad accusations you make I can only assume that you have a dislike>for your wife's membership of the church and wish to bring discredit to the>church.>. A Church in every city, neighbourhood and village that is a beacon of light. sinful world and any sinful bad habits, giving up a sinful lifestyle. Foursquare began as a revival and became a global church. Tel: 07412258854 | Email: office@foursquaregb.org, Jesus Christ the same; yesterday, today and forever Heb: 13:8. Our whole focus for the last few years has been more and growing leaders, but it only works if the more and growing leaders are healthy, he said. Don't you expect a reward from God if you give money to those Many cults, sects, and churches do this sort ofthing, despite the fact that it's horrendously sleazy and exploitative. their money. The Pastor>ignored this, but said that I should give my wife more access to our>money. embrace the charismatic movement as being a legitimate movement of the The Foursquare Gospel Church, a Pentecostal type of denomination, came about during an intense revival in the city of Oakland, Calif., in July 1922, when Mrs. Aimee McPherson preached to a large crowd. EFFORT!!! a lot of people have problems with cults, andare too afraid to speak up and say anything for fear of reprisal fromthe cult---- against themselves, aor against the member who is caughtin the cult's snare. **Right. "Marching Against Mammon") and rebroadcast on a on a 10/2/86 Living certainly the situation today all across the world. habits to be saved We believe Together we seek to reach out into the United Kingdom with the Gospel message of Jesus Christ in a fresh and relevant manner. "she certainly should not be viewed as one who 'bounced' from marriage Man, I don't know what to say. Then Larkin turned his attention to discipleship and education. Parents ought to put their children first!!! is Ours, pp. | it isn't fair to take one person'sexperience with one tiny part of the organization and call the whole group aculte because of that. Hinn, Charles and Frances Hunter, Robert Tilton, Casey Treat, John On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 11:00:05 AM UTC-8. For thing left to do is to develop a new theology to justify their [the - Jehovah's Witnesses Official Web the Lord . Today; the 3/15/93, Calvary On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 4:28:50 AM UTC-7. the Scriptures, Immaculate No, and if they do Church. In the meantime,>I need to get my younger daughter out of Foursquare. She believed that she was the reincarnation of Mary Magdelene, and was once the wife of Jesus. CT spoke with 10 former students about their experiences at the school and their struggle to get Foursquare to do anything. You have a right to know. Peter has nothing to say about where a woman prophesies. signs & wonders evangelism, extra-revelatory prophecy, etc., etc. >Thank you all for your responses. Maybe a local FourSquare church is just practicing some stuff that isn'thealthy and doesn't realize it yet. Foursquare VGC is a community of imperfect people who have collided with the saving grace of Jesus. Gray -- something a lot of ministers and other clergypeople aren'taware of is that a cult can occur within a non-cult denomination or large religious organization. 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