[2], Neighbors claimed that Ame was often abused and reported seeing her forced to walk back and forth on the sidewalk, barefoot, in extremely hot Phoenix temperatures. [1] David and his family members all claimed that Ame is not his daughter. The plant, called Indiana Packers, is From a local: they process hogs into pork, and its a horrible job that a LOT of people who are otherwise unemployable, whether due to criminal backgrounds or poor references from prior employers, end up doing. The location where the girls bodies were found is only about 2.5-3 miles from the plant. Is familiar with the local area even though he has not planted long-term roots there. And if that is the case then I very much think it's someone familiar with that land. I am a bit suspicious of RL, but I don't think he did it. Both cases involved young females between the ages of 8-14. We have our local rumors too. That is probably why he got himself a lawyer. "We stay positive and we keep moving," Williams said. WISH-TV also pointed out that detectives mentioned that Kline's phone search history included several about the Delphi case. I don't know what goes through this person's mind, but before he strikes again and puts some other family through what we're going through, we need to get him off the streets," he added. "Another brother falls but we're all here to show support and pick him up and hopefully everybody can see this," Rogers said. However, the cops have found nothing. Police say the girls mostly talk about "stuff girls talk about" in the recording, but they also mention the man. If you kill someone in cold blood like that, and do God knows what else, you are going to do it again. Deal had been the victim of long-term abuse by her family members before being locked inside a footlocker, where she subsequently died from suffocation. Purple and teal ribbons, their favorite colors, hang on lamp posts. View Source Suggest Edits Memorial Photos Flowers Memorials Region North America USA Indiana Carroll County Pittsburg Also living there were Cynthia Stoltzmann's daughter, Sammantha, and her son-in-law, John Allen, both 23, and twelve or more children. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. - Families and friends are saying goodbye to the Delphi girls who were killed while hiking in Carroll County last week. It's the only plausible explanation for the search party not finding them earlier. Judith Deal also pleaded guilty to attempted child abuse, and was sentenced to 10 years in prison, plus a lifetime of probation. They said Ame often had head lice and once had cat urine on her shoes. According to Shirley, she was seeing another man during the time she conceived, therefore it is not known for sure if David Deal is the father of Ame. This office will seek justice for Deputy Ruiz and his family.". Carried a deer kit fanny-pack, which may have contained weapons or tools to torture or kill the girls, Has a hunting background or hunts for sport. "Johnny was so happy at his graduation. Day 2: No contact, phones off (would have charged w friends to stay on SM), no one's seen them, all friends and friends moms and dads have replied no - we haven't seen them, early reports of a suspicious person walking on trails with a report made immediately to law enforcement the day before, before girls even disappeared indicating some guy walked quickly through trails and didn't . I check almost daily to see if there have been any updates to this case. If you have information on the Evansdale murder, contact law enforcement at 319-232-6682. John and Sammantha Allen were charged with first degree murder, conspiracy to commit child abuse and many counts of child abuse. The case remains unsolved more than five years after the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were found in a wooded area near a hiking trail in Delphi in 2017. The bodies of Liberty German and Abigail Williams were found on Feb. 14, 2017, after the two teens from Delphi, Ind. Sending prayers and condolences to fellow deputies and Deputy Ruizs family and friends. Atsome point, he lived in Ohio, before moving to Phoenix in the 1950s, according to details provided in 1981byhis obituary andby his friend and business partner, Ron Lukezic. He's too well dressed. She at one pointduringMcCall's trialleft the witness stand to point a finger at him from the center of the courtroom. The DTH podcast theorises that one person with considerable knowledge of the area committed the crime and had been planning it for some time. He is a white male with his hands in his pockets while walking. He is far bigger than BG. Sad truth is Mr Logan has paid a price for violating his probation while a murderer walks free. Is comfortable in the woods and in rural areas. Has a work schedule that coincides with a break on the weekends. DTH said the killer likely grew up walking those woods, or spends a lot of time outdoors and had come to see the bridge as the perfect trap. This is one case that I check on a daily basis and I really hate that there hasn't been more developments. [7], Police claimed that the other children instigated situations to get Ame in trouble. A friend of mine from Flora, IN says that it's true. friend to the couple portrayed them as sociable, Marilyn Redmond remembered rolling off the bed and crawling to the family room, Good Samaritan Hospital in Phoenix, where she stayed for about 13days, Phoenix police DetectiveGeorgeKlettlinger told the Associated Press, former Phoenix police officer Edward Lonzo McCall, Jr., was booked, Redmond even traveled to Chicago, Illinois, to identifyBracy and Hooper. Last week the children of Delphi started school. The following is based on various news reports at the time, mostly from The Arizona Republic: Few details are known about the Redmonds and their family, aside from the crime itself. McCall and Bracy have since died in prison. February 13, 2017. Both families say that was a tough day for them, knowing Abby and Libby should have been there and weren't. I am open to all possibilities at this point. He succumbed to the injuries sustained on Saturday at the hands of a violent predator. The 13th of the month, the number 13, or just generally the teens, might hold special significance for him. 2:58. Delphi murders/autopsy - funeral pics WTF Next! Also, I do agree that the girls were taken somewhere and then dumped afterwards. [4], David Deal, Ame's possible father, was reported living in the back of the family rental home in a tent with his two other children. Eventually Shirley and the children joined David again and they lived in Midland, Texas, together with David's mother, Judith Deal, and his sister, Cynthia Stoltzmann. Their bodies were found in the woods east of Delphi the next day on Valentine's Day. MCSO said they are still searching for a vehicle that was stolen by Hurley as he fled from authorities a 2016 gray Kia Optima with a California license plate 7TLd075. All of it keeps Libby German's grandpa, Mike Patty, up at night. In . Ron Lukezic's wife at the time, Joyce Lukezic, was also accused of being involved in the planning. I am not family, nor am I friends with anyone in the families. Check this out: https://youtu.be/DZzBCyLSI0E. The accusations of luring a child to a private location to commit a brutal crimebegged the question of whether Carroll County officials were investigating Chadwell as possibly being tied to the Feb. 13, 2017,killings of teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams. We might find out more Monday as I believe that is the landowners court date. This is someone who feels comfortable in these woods. Your service and dedication to the community will not be forgotten.". The hill the girls were forced down is steeper, and once on it, a person would feel "trapped with no way out". failed . Chadwellgave officers permission to search his house, and they found the girl naked and badly beaten, according to prosecutors. But at least one close friend to the couple portrayed them as sociable,saying they'd meet five or six times a week for drinks. It is the Monon High Bridge, a hiking trail near the tiny Indiana town of Delphi, 100km northwest of Indianapolis. [3] One neighbor said that he saw babies in highchairs eating in front, outside of the house, late at night. How the girls were murdered has still not been released, as Carter says, "because only the killer knows". The body site was about 800m from the high bridge where Libby had photographed Abby the afternoon before. Dates: Both cases occurred on the 13th day of the month and bordered a weekend (Friday and Monday). I thought that he knew more than he was letting on and while he might not be the killer, he knew who was and that person had access to his property. "Truly heartbreaking. The announcement of Richard Allen's arrest stirred up a lot of emotions . A video taken by a local grandfather of the walk along the Monon High Bridge, recorded four months before the murders, shows just how precarious it is to walk on the structure. Support local journalism. The jury was again deadlocked in Cruz'sthird trial but he was found guilty in 1988 after a fourth. Despite this, they have also said that they do not suspect the families in either case. He is walking at a fast pace across the rail bridge planks, which is no mean feat as they are separated by sizeable gaps, towards the girls. "The girls should have not been on that bridge," LH said. Doubt he would be bold like this in his first murder and def not be able to pull off a double murder in semi public area. It is absolutely horrible what happened to these girls. I wonder if the FBI has been contacted for data regarding truck drivers moving between Iowa and Indiana on the days in question? Cousins Elizabeth Collins, 8, and Lyric Cook, 10 were out riding bikes in the Meyers Lake area of Evansdale, Iowa on Friday, July 13, 2012 when they went missing. The investigation is continuing and no one has been charged. My initial guess was that the man in the picture is either a transient or truck driversomething that allowed him to get out of the area quickly. Ive been sifting through so many news reports, facebook groups, true crime forums and truthtellers. However, WISH-TV reported that Kline said he wasn't sure who else might have used or had access to the account. "The griping that we do about 'Get your stuff on. "People said that there was a guy behind the tree in the photo of Abby in the woods. "Every time I go there it gets worse and worse, she said, "You can grab onto pieces of wood and pull it right off the ties. Maybe they already know who it is maybe they're following him and checking things out but they don't want to say anything yet they don't want to release anything either to the public. Theconviction was again overturned four years later and in 1995 Cruz was acquitted followinga fifth trial. Ame Lynn Deal (July 24, 2000 - July 12, 2011) was an American 10-year-old girl who was murdered in Phoenix, Arizona, in July 2011.Deal had been the victim of long-term abuse by her family members before being locked inside a footlocker, where she subsequently died from suffocation. BUT if I am misunderstanding how the search went down and how the girls were found, then that can change. The girls were dropped off near the Monon High Bridge, just east of Delphi, about 1 p.m. on Feb. 13, 2017. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. That makes me wonder if they were held somewhere and then placed later? It's unclear when he met and married Marilyn Redmond, but the couple shared their three children and his two stepchildren, according to the obituary. About seven months later, the Maricopa County Attorney's Office announced on May 4 that it intends to seek the death penalty. Investigators have stated that they have compared notes on the Delphi and Evansdale cases and, while there are similarities, they do not believe the cases are related. I posted that link to a random blog from early 2017 simply to show that the public discussion of the scarves occurred immediately after the memorial services. FOX 10's Nicole Garcia reports. On Libby's person, police found her mobile phone and on that they found video of a man on the Monon High Bridge. May have an alibi for the time of the murders but this alibi may be superficial or crack under scrutiny. He then breaks in and steals his clothing, goes back to his backpack and grabs his kill kit. Ive been sifting through so many news reports, facebook groups, true crime forums and truthtellers. "Unless someone absolutely somehow studied that [trail] in great depth, they would not know specifically where certain things were," Leazenby said. Maybe this guy knew those girls were going to be there, maybe he overheard them speaking or maybe he knew their mother and their mother told him that they were going to be there Anything is possible these days. The fact that LE had video and audio made me very hopeful that this monster would be captured. I still have my suspicions that they could have been catfished on some level, though. attempted murder defendant James Brian Chadwell Jr. allegedly lured a 9-year-old neighborhood girl into his house, killings of teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, it has been reported that he is being investigated for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, Accused child abductor needs medical treatment after jailhouse fight, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. It has also been mentioned that Daniel Nations girlfriend's first name starts with "K", (although I . In my mind it just seems unfathomable that there could be photographic and audio evidence of the suspect and he is still at large. The bodies were all found in areas a hunter might frequent. Lukezic was also convicted in 1981 for her role in the murders, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. Families of murdered teen girls Abigail Williams and Liberty German speak out about ongoing investigation, Fears of link between 'Snapchat killer' and unsolved double murder of young cousins, 'We have a hole in our family': A year on from the 'Snapchat' murders. The court approved the amended charge on May 12. I check daily, too. The transcript showed that police pointed out that Kline was deceptive during a polygraph test when he was asked if he knew who killed the two girls, WISH-TV reported. Could it be possible that he had a backpack and stored it somewhere? First time posting here so I hope I am following the rules and if not, please feel free to let me know and I will remove it. Friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, left school early and were dropped off around 1:45pm by a relative to go hiking on trails near the Moon High Bridge in Delphi, Indiana. He was granted a retrial two years later, which ended with a hung jury. A friend of mine from Flora, IN says that it's true. The snapchat photo of Abby was taken at 2:07pm and the photo of the Bridge Guy was taken at 2:30pm. The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. [2], Ame, who was 4 feet, 2inches and 59 pounds, had to be squeezed into the trunk since its dimensions were only 3 feet by 1 foot 2 inches and a foot deep. "He was just a nice guy.". It was later revealed that Kline was connected to a fake social media account, "anthony_shots," which had been using phony photos of male models to communicate with underage girls. Anyone with information is asked to call the sheriff's office at 602-876-1011 and reference report #IR21-029346. It is possible that RL does know the killer. But the Redmonds opted to stay home that night because Marilyn'smother, Helen Phelps, was visiting, Kelly said. "There is obviously someone withholding information," Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby told the conference. Required fields are marked *. The fact that they are holding the landowner seemed promising to me when first reported. She has bone chips in a precarious place in her head," Phoenix police DetectiveGeorgeKlettlinger told the Associated Pressat the time. I hope they figure it out soon. Maybe they don't want to scare this guy off and have him leave town that's why they're keeping it hush-hush. On September 13, 2013, she was sentenced to 24 years in prison and given a lifetime of probation. That tells me he planned these murders very meticulously with nothing left to chance. He is wearing jeans, a navy blue jacket and possibly a cap. Rest easy, Deputy Ruiz," Avondale PD said. Nothing less is acceptable.". "Please, please, come forward and let us know what you know," Carter said. You really have to ask the following questions, imo: How did BG (bridge guy) know the girls were on the trail? "Seeking the death penalty is the most serious decision entrusted to the County Attorney," said interim County Attorney Rachel Mitchell. Identified the place he would hide likely from a nearby elevated position such as a deer lookout to watch and observe potential victim/s and where he would take them to torture/kill them. David Martin Deal pleaded guilty to attempted child abuse and was sentenced to 14 years in prison on July 6, 2013. [5] Police claimed the family abused Ame because they did not believe she was a blood relative. TERRAFULLSIGHT 1.61K subscribers Subscribe 1.6K views 1 year ago #DURecorder #DURecorder This is my video recorded with DU Recorder. Its just blowing my mind that he hasnt been identified. The news outlets also speculated about a tattoo on Chadwell. However, there are new developments with the owner of the property where the girls were found. Or maybe he checks out RLs property and watches him leave. Cruz was convicted in 1981 forordering the murders and ultimatelyspent 14 years on Arizona's death row. It is also known as a place hunters frequent and it was hunters who found the girls bodies. Has a substance or alcohol abuse problem. "It was at that time that he was initially passive resistant and turned on the deputy and the fight ensued," Penzone said. [8] When asked why Ame was treated so badly, it was said, "She was mentally a little slow, but that's it. Indiana local LH, who didn't want to be identified, told news.com.au that she finds the spot the girls met and filmed their murderer so creepy, she takes a gun whenever she visits. One former investigator on the case told podcast Down The Hill (DTH) that the killer who police have now confirmed they believe is the man Libby captured on her phone left "a lot of evidence" at the crime scene. Several days after the murders, and around the time of the Indiana Packers plant raid, LE released these photos of boots seized as evidence. Drusilla Moorhouse I just cannot imagine the pain they go through every minute of every day. Cynthia Stoltzmann and her mother's bond were each set at $500,000. [10] Prosecutors announced they intended to seek the death penalty for John and Sammantha Allen. As for Chadwell's change of venue, Tippecanoe Superior 2 Judge Steve Meyer set an Aug. 31 hearing on the motion. That is quite an unusual and risky MO. She returned to see three men and a gun pointed at her husband. I can't imagine what their families must be going through. They didn'tappear to speak with news reporters at the time, andarepresentative for the family could not be reached for this story. The bodies may have been posed in an odd or provocative manner, often indicative of serial killer behavior. The Evansdale, Iowa murders are eerily similar. Their bodies were found nearby a day later. By clicking Sign Up, I confirmthat I have read and agreeto the Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. Knows how to cover his tracks and not leave evidence behind. Doesnt mean that was him or someone on his property that did it, Im just stating what seems to be the most obvious just from my perspective. LH revealed the bridge is higher and more treacherous than it looks, and some of the cross posts called "ties" - are missing or rotten. At separate instances, Joyce Lukezic and Cruz's lawyers blamed Ron Lukezic for the killings, but he was never charged in the case, according to The Republic. Then again, he was also convinced that there was a pic of BG in that pic of Abby on the bridge. I guess this case is so frustrating because someone, somewhere must recognize the picture and voice. Experiences deep-seated rage toward women. Blends in well with the local populations of small, rural towns. A short time after, deputies later found Hurley and took him into custody. Floyd and Verna Kelly, the first to arrive for the party,found the slain family and called for help. After he is done, he goes back to his backpack, changes and returns to his car at the cps bldg. Phoenix police initially believed the motive for the killings was robbery some jewelry and about $1,200 in cash were taken from the home. Eerie photographs show the hill two young teens were ordered to walk down by their killer before he murdered them in rural Indiana. Both Carter, the local sheriff, other law enforcement and Delphi citizens themselves are convinced because of the location of the girls' abduction and murder, the killer was a local or former resident with intimate knowledge of the site. Shirley claims also that the family threw her out and she left without her children, relocating to Iola, Kansas. Libby German recorded the killer's order after she placed her phone with its video camera rolling in her pocket as he cornered them on the bridge. (WTHR) - State police say more audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. Notifications can be turned off anytime in the browser settings. 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